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Council wants Wreckhouse forecasts changed




This tractor-trailer toppled over near the Starlight Mountain on the Trans-Canada highway on Dec. 10. Port aux Basques Town Council feels Environment Canada is misleading travelers by issuing Wreckhouse wind warnings with the Stephenville-Bay St. George w

This tractor-trailer toppled over near the Starlight Mountain on the Trans-Canada highway on Dec. 10. Port aux Basques Town Council feels Environment Canada is misleading travelers by issuing Wreckhouse wind warnings with the Stephenville-Bay St. George w

Published on December 29, 2009
Published on June 28, 2010
Brodie Thomas  RSS Feed

The Port aux Basques Town Council is hoping the winds of change will blow through Environment Canada's forecast structure.

Councillors are questioning Environment Canada's decision to group Wreckhouse in with the Stephenville-Bay St. George weather forecast.

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Environment Canada , Port aux Basques Town Council , Meteorological Service of Canada , Port aux Basques , St. George , Stephenville-Bay

The Port aux Basques Town Council is hoping the winds of change will blow through Environment Canada's forecast structure.

Councillors are questioning Environment Canada's decision to group Wreckhouse in with the Stephenville-Bay St. George weather forecast.

It results in Wreckhouse wind warnings being read in the same breath as the Stephenville forecast on radio. Warnings also appear with Stephenville's forecast on the Environment Canada website, rather than with the forecast for Port aux Basques.

Members of council feel the forecast can be misleading for tourists and truckers arriving in the province because they might hear a Wreckhouse wind warning for the Bay St. George area and think they can safely drive through the Codroy Valley.

Wreckhouse wind warnings were announced with the Port aux Basques weather until 2003. That spring, Environment Canada redrew its forecast region boundaries for the province. That change put the Codroy Valley in the same area as Stephenville-Bay St. George.

Earlier this year, council asked Town Manager Melvin Keeping to write to Environment Canada expressing council's concerns about the misleading nature of the new forecast system.

In his letter, Mr. Keeping explained how tourists heading to the Crabbes River campground might think it safe to drive there because the Stephenville-Bay St. George area is still 50 kilometres away from their destination.

"Little do you know that when you leave Port aux Basques you will encounter the Wreckhouse winds 10 to 15 minutes outside of Port aux Basques," wrote Mr. Keeping.

Wayne Osmond of Cape Ray is a fierce proponent of providing more warning to drivers about the Wreckhouse winds. He pointed out the folly of listing Wreckhouse wind warnings with the Stephenville weather on his blog in May.

"The Wreckhouse is closer to Port aux Basques and this disinformation may be causing accidents," wrote Mr. Osmond. "The Wreckhouse is over 100 kilometers from the area they forecast and some unsuspecting motorists unfamiliar with the area may die because of this disinformation."

Mr. Osmond routinely features dramatic photos of tractor-trailers and campers blown over by Wreckhouse winds on his blog.
He believes the provincial government should have digital signs at either end of Wreckhouse to alert drivers of the current wind speeds and the danger of the localized winds.

The possibility of digital signs has been discussed for about a decade by several local groups and provincial departments. However, disagreements over responsibility and jurisdiction have so far stifled any progress.

Mr. Osmond doubts action will be taken any time soon.

"I have a feeling not much will be done out there until someone dies. It always seems to take a scandal or tragedy in this province to get government moving," he said.

Environment Canada

In a response to Mr. Keeping's letter, Bill Appleby, director of the Atlantic region for the Meteorological Service of Canada, wrote that forecast region boundaries are drawn "to encompass areas which experience similar weather conditions under certain regimes."
He also explained that while the Wreckhouse wind is most famous in its namesake region, the phenomenon appears to be common in many areas along the west side of the Long Range Mountains.

Mr. Appleby's response appears to contradict Environment Canada's own definition of Wreckhouse winds, which it defines on its website as southwest winds that occur between Cape Ray and St. Andrew's.

Mr. Appleby said Environment Canada initiated a review of public forecast regions this past summer.

"Your comments are timely as they will be incorporated into this review and it is likely that any proposed changes to our forecast regions will address most of your concerns," he wrote.

That response did not satisfy town council. Mayor Button asked Mr. Keeping to again get in touch with Environment Canada, and discussed the possibility of inviting an official to meet with council for a discussion.

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    johnny from the valley
    - June 28, 2010 at 15:59:49

    some windy politicos still dont know where the wind blows and wont listen to those who do. So what else is new? I think Mr. Osmond has a very good take on the situation, its probably easier to stop the wind than change minds. Good luck Wayne.

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    Philip
    - June 28, 2010 at 15:59:48

    As I lived the first 20 years of my life going up in that area, I think you hit the nail on the head. It seems to me that what you said about someone having to die before they do anything about it. God forgive give me for saying this if it was one of theirs, they be first one on that band wagon. So I'm saying dont give up keep on truckin'. I have family who makes a living driving those big rigs, so dont give.

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    wayne
    - June 28, 2010 at 15:59:47

    QUOTE: { Bill Appleby, director of the Atlantic region for the Meteorological Service of Canada, wrote that forecast region boundaries are drawn to encompass areas which experience similar weather conditions under certain regimes.
    He also explained that while the Wreckhouse wind is most famous in its namesake region, the phenomenon appears to be common in many areas along the west side of the Long Range Mountains.}

    If it's so common why do we not see a dozen or more tractor trailers,campers,etc, overturned in other areas along the west coast? the problem lays within a region from river view to just west of cape ray. The problem can be fixed. First it should start with the dis-information and digital signage as soon as possible.

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    Wilf
    - June 28, 2010 at 15:59:46

    You have to wonder how some people supposidly in the know,like Mr Appleby, get their information.

    I agree with the council that the weather forecast for the Wreckhouse area should be included in the forecast for the Port aux Basques region..I just makes sense.
    Wayne, keep on keeping on . Your message will get through.

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    Chick
    - June 28, 2010 at 15:59:46

    I believe the powers that be should pay attention to what Mr. Osmond who lives in that area is saying. He has seen and photographed numerous overturned vehicles. How much evidence is needed to prove that this is a very serious safety issue?

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    joan
    - June 28, 2010 at 15:59:44

    When I worked with the NL dept. of tourism at the visitor information centre in Port aux Basques I was made aware of the proper name for the winds in the wreck house area they are called Katobotic or drainage winds.they are present in other parts of the world but the best example known is between Red Rocks and the Codroy Valley Not Stephenville .This I found out from a small hand book put out by enviroment canada.

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    Andre
    - June 28, 2010 at 15:59:42

    Interestingly enough, I wrote an e-mail to our liberal MHA regarding putting up a either a light or any other type of sign to inform travellers when winds are high. I sent this e-mail over 6 months ago and never received a reply. After waiting a few weeks, I decided to send the e-mail to the minister of transport and again never received a reply. As I work in Port aux Basques and that my residence is in Doyles, I have a strong appreciation of what drivers face when driving through the Wreckhouse. I have seen my fair share of tractor trailers in ditches, overturned campers etc to last me a lifetime. I had hoped that Mr. Parsons of all people would have taken this issue to heart but obviously, my hope was in vain. I would certainly help/assist anyone who would like to push the issue further and can be contacted via e-mail at gibeaulta@hotmail.com.

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